Belly Up to the Bar with Jenny Milchman

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Waking up one wintry morning in her farmhouse in the Adirondack Mountains, Nora Hamilton’s world is shattered: Her husband, Brendan, has committed suicide. The first hours following Nora’s devastating discovery pass in shock. Why would a rock- solid police officer and husband suddenly kill himself? Having spent a lifetime avoiding hard truths, Nora must now start facing them. Unraveling Brendan’s final days, Nora searches for an explanation—but finds bewildering resistance from everyone in town. Nora realizes that she is asking questions no one will answer. For beneath the soft cover of snow lies a conspiracy that will do anything to keep its darkest secrets hidden.

Jenny Milchman is the author of COVER OF SNOW, due out January 15th from Ballantine Books. With a starred review from Publisher’s Weekly, and effusive praise from Harlan Coben, Laura Lippman, Lee Child, and Hank Philippi Ryan, it may be set in the frigid winters of the Adirondacks but it is white hot. I met Jenny at Watchung Booksellers for Writing Matters, a panel to introduce readers and authors, on the day she announced her book was accepted for publication. And today I invite her to Belly Up to the Bar, to talk about her journey to publication over a hot buttered rum, and whatever she’s having.

Tom Pluck BeerTP: Welcome to Belly up to the Bar, Jenny. What can I get you?
 
 
 

Jenny Milchman WebJM: Well, hot buttered rum is something I’ve always wanted to try, but I’m also going to set this pitcher of hot chocolate spiked with kahlua down on the bar. You need grownup hot chocolate to get through an Adirondack winter. Please–feel free to have some.
 

Tom Pluck BeerTP: First, let’s get everyone on the edge of their seats. Tell us about COVER OF SNOW.
 
 

Jenny Milchman WebJM: Cover of Snow came to life when one question grabbed me around the throat and wouldn’t let go. What would make a good man do the worst thing he possibly could to his wife? And what would that thing be?

OK. Two questions.

Tom Pluck BeerTP: There’s something about being snowed in that lends itself to mystery, isn’t there? The hush that falls over the world, the bitter cold that drives inside, the secretive hooded coats we get to wear. Fargo, Snow Falling on Cedars, the popular Scandinavian thrillers all make use of the icy season. What drives your story out into the cold?

Jenny Milchman WebJM: All of the factors you mention—and one other. Snow makes things difficult. It’s romantic, all of that white, but it’s also very hard to live with. There are minor hassles like having to dig out your car or unfreeze your locks. And then there are bigger risks like falling or even getting lost and freezing to death.

Snow changes the landscape. One day my heroine’s husband, Brendan, went out into a snow-strewn world. And what happened out there meant that he could never really return to live amongst warmth and the sun again.

Tom Pluck BeerTP: I love the question that your book asks: What would make a good man to do a very bad thing? Tease us a little. You can’t tell us the answer, but what made you ask the question?
 

Jenny Milchman WebJM: I am one of those people who, to borrow author Rosellen Brown’s term, thinks in the before and after. What moments tip us over from one side of the line to the other? The question of what my heroine’s husband did was one of those. What would it be like if a woman woke up, fully and reasonably expecting her husband to be beside her, and he wasn’t?

Tom Pluck BeerTP: I think asking a writer her influences is rather cliche–we are influenced by all sorts of things other than books–but let me ask anyway. Are you a lifelong mystery fan, and if so, whose writing lured you into the murder biz?

Jenny Milchman WebJM: I am a lifelong reader of the suspense, horror, mystery, and thriller genres. As a child it was the horror writers who inspired me most of all. Stephen King, Ira Levin, William Peter Blatty; books like The Bad Seed and The Omen and Audrey Rose. The most influential mystery I ever read was Winifred by Doris Miles Disney. I think it has one of the best last lines ever written.

Tom Pluck BeerTP: I’ll have to check that one out. I’ve heard about your long journey to publication, and it both inspired me and steeled me for the hard work ahead. But humor us, and tell the story again for our readers.
 

Jenny Milchman WebJM: I will…just as soon as I can pick myself up off the ground and force myself to go over the harrowing details. No, I’m kidding. And Tom, please take heart—it doesn’t always take as long as it did for me. I believe that we writers all put our time in somewhere along the line. Could be in the writing, the agent search, the getting an offer part, or even the next book. At some point, it usually takes a while.

For me, I feel lucky that the writing itself is almost always pure joy. There is just nothing like a first draft for me. And I was also pretty lucky on the agent front, getting offers of representation within about eight months. But after that, things bogged down. My agents had interest from editors, but editors have to get their whole houses on board before an offer can be made.

In total, I wrote eight novels over a period of eleven years, worked with three agents who garnered fifteen almost-offers before Cover of Snow finally sold.

It happened at the eleventh hour. My agent and I were out of options, and the publishing world had changed out from under me in the decade + I spent trying. I was seriously considering publishing either on my own or with a teeny new micro press.

And then an author whose work I loved was kind enough to read my unpublished manuscript, which she loved and gave to her own editor, who also loved it, and within five weeks, I had a contract and my whole writing life—my whole life in some ways—had changed.

If anybody reading this is despairing because they haven’t broken through, don’t worry. As long as you keep trying, you haven’t failed. You just haven’t succeeded yet.

Tom Pluck BeerTP: Some say the mystery tale comes out of a desire for order, to know that the path to justice may be twisty and torturously slow, but is as inevitable as the passage of time. What drives you to read and write mystery fiction?

Jenny Milchman WebJM: That. Seriously. You just said it. I read and write so that order can be restored to an unjust universe. Would that books had such power over real life. Maybe they do in some ways.
 
 

Tom Pluck BeerTP: You started Take Your Child to a Bookstore Day, and coincidentally, independent booksellers reported excellent holiday sales. Tell us a bit about the experiences you’ve had with this, and what inspired it.

Jenny Milchman WebJM: Coincidence? I think not! No, I’m just kidding. But truthfully, part of the reason behind celebrating Take Your Child to a Bookstore Day on the first Saturday of December was to coincide with holiday gift-giving, try and suggest to people that books make great presents.

Here’s how TYCBD came to be… In 2010 I had two young children I was bringing to story hour at our local bookstore almost every week. My kids probably didn’t realize it was as much of a treat for me as for them. Which started me thinking—were other parents in on this secret? How many children knew the pleasure of spending time in a bookstore?

I frequent the mystery listserv, DorothyL, and a more avid group of readers you couldn’t hope to find. When I floated the idea for Take Your Child to a Bookstore Day, bloggers on the listserv spread the word. My husband designed a poster, a website, and bookmarks, and we designated the first Saturday in December as Take Your Child to a Bookstore Day. Just two weeks later, 80 bookstores were celebrating. We spent the next two summers driving cross-country as a family, visiting bookstores and trying to get the word out. In its third year, more than 500 bookstores in all fifty states celebrated the Day with kid-oriented events and giveaways and parties.

Tom Pluck BeerTP: You’re wrongly accused of murder, and tough luck, you’re facing the chair. Don’t worry, we’ll save you at the last minute, but what’s your last meal?
 
 

Jenny Milchman WebJM: I can’t eat before a big event. Kidding again. Dim sum. If I also get dessert, I’d like birthday cake. Someone has just arrived for my stay of execution and I feel reborn!
 
 

Tom Pluck BeerTP: Thank you for dropping by, Jenny. You’re off on a busy book tour. I have a feeling the we’ll be hearing a lot more about COVER OF SNOW, and I hope you’re blanketed with good reviews as the readers snowball into an avalanche of success.

Jenny Milchman WebJM: Love the metaphor! Thank you, Tom, for having me to your very cool venue, and for your support of authors everywhere. I look forward to hearing about your own successes!

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15 responses to “Belly Up to the Bar with Jenny Milchman

  1. This is a fantastic book and a fantastic writer… but even more, Jenny is truly a giving and talented writing teacher and human being. We co-teach a class via Skype for the New York Writer’s Workshop and while we all wish her a hugely successful book tour and introduce bazillions of readers to her work, we’re also awaiting to her return to the classroom. Jenny is one of the most remarkable people I’ve ever had the honor of working with and every success she gains is well-deserved. Get COVER OF SNOW–it’s a hugely-great book. And, Jenny’s a hugely-tremendous person.

    • jennymilch

      Les, how I miss teaching with you! Getting to work with Les Edgerton was a made it moment for me, and I hang on his every word about what makes a book work. No one can pull a reader through a suspenseful narrative like Les. I try for that every day I write.

  2. Great interview, and the book sounded good to me just based on the summary. But if Les gives it his approval, I’ve definitely got to give it a go.

    • Thanks for dropping by, Elizabeth! Yes, sounds like a winner to me.

    • Jenny’s just such a remarkable person. She asked me to co-teach classes with her and they’ve been one of the most enjoyable experiences I’ve ever had. She just gives and gives of herself and comes without an ego. Her insights into novels and what makes them work is just remarkable. Plus, she’s just a fun person–one of those folks you just want to hang out with. I know that wherever she appears on her book tour, people are just going to bond with her instantly. She’s a force of nature.

      • I’m going to her signing at Well Read Books this Saturday. I haven’t seen her in a year or two, right after I began writing again. She gave a talk with Dennis Tafoya and a few other writers at Watchung booksellers, and I met her there.

      • jennymilch

        Les, you know it’s been life-changing for me, getting to teach with you. I think about how structure works–or doesn’t–entirely differently now. Plus, there’s usually a good amount of laughter to make the feedback go down easier ;) I feel like when we teach that I’m getting to be a student in the class as well so I am awfully glad you are willing to do it!!

    • jennymilch

      Elizabeth, I so appreciate your being here, and being interested in Cover of Snow.

  3. jennymilch

    Tom, I’m so happy to hear you’ll be at Well Read, and happy we met at Watchung all that time ago! You’ll have to update me on what’s happened between now and then…

    Thank you again for having me to your blog. I wish this virtual bar had a real-time counterpart so we all could have a drink there together!

  4. The novel sounds fantastic! I can’t wait to add it to my TBR pile.

    • jennymilch

      Margaret, thank you so much!! Being on someone’s TBR pile…well, it took me 13 years to reach that dream.

    • jennymilch

      Also, I wanted to say that Margaret is one of my favorite names. Did you ever read “A Summer to Die” by Lois Lowry? This is one of the most haunting kids’ books I’ve ever read. And it quotes the Gerard Manley Hopkins poems that starts “Margaret, are you grieving…”

  5. jennymilch

    It’s a sad one, Margaret, but such a beautiful story. Thanks again for the conversation and interest here on the blog!

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